Pivotal age, hardship at work, new rights… The same questions were asked about the pension reform to Philippe Martinez, Secretary General of the CGT and Jean-Baptiste Djebbari, Secretary of State for Transport.
For one the current system is “financially unbalanced”, for the other, this reform “is not based on solidarity”. “It is the theory of the first of the roped party applied to the retreat ”, considers Philippe Martinez.
For Jean-Baptiste Djebbari, this reform is no exception to the fact of “preserving the basis of our social pact”. For his part, Philippe Martinez points to a lure, a way to get around the problem. “So the pivotal age, the equilibrium age, is basically telling us that we have to work at least until the age of 64. Because you just have to count: you leave university at 25, if you have to contribute for 43 years to have the number of points necessary to be able to live on your retirement, well I’m not very good at maths but 25 + 43, we are far from 64 ”, develops the secretary general of the CGT.
Regarding the minimum pension of 1000 euros per month, there too the two opinions differ: for Jean-Baptiste Djebbari, no one in France will receive a pension of less than 1000 euros net for a full career. Philippe Martinez is more perplexed: “What is a full career? How long ?“
Finally, Philippe Martinez believes that the arduous nature of certain trades is not taken into account. “Being retired is good, but if it’s to spend it lying on a bed or in a wheelchair, I don’t see the point“, He explains. On this point, Jean-Baptiste Djebbari ensures that the criteria of arduousness “deserve to be reviewed“. “Ne announced that we are going to extend the hardship regime to the public service, and you know that this will allow nursing assistants and nurses in particular to benefit from a framework that today they do not know.”